Russell, We found that Lake Havasu wasn't worth our time. As Olin suggested, the Grand Canyon is a definite *must see*. If you are traveling from Phoenix up to Flagstaff, you might find a stop at Montezuma's Castle or Montezuma's Well (cliff dwellings south of Sedona) worthwhile. THE DRIVE UP THROUGH SEDONA TO FLAGSTAFF IS TRULY BREATHTAKING. For a more up close and personal look at cliff dwellings, stop at Walnut Canyon just east of Flagstaff (about an hour or so of moderate hike to see the whole place - take water). Meteor Crater (already on your itinerary) is worth the stop and won't take that much time. Last time I was there, they wouldn't let you hike down into the crater (apparently some gal tried the climb in high heels with unpleasant results and their insurance company intervened) but they didn't mind you taking a rim walk. > The redwoods of the northern California coast are worth seeing once. > Here's one you really can drive to, hop out for an hour, then drive on. > The best ones are north of San Francisco, but you can also see them on > your drive south from there. Thanks Olin! I'd forgotten how nice the redwoods are. They've just sort of become a part of 'over the river and through the (red)woods to grandmother's house we go'. Have a great trip! Dave -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.