I could not find Sweden or any other nothern country (Norway, Finland) in your list, so you are missing the best part of Europe. :-) The midnight sun at "Nordkap" is probably the absolute opposit from the Netherlands, from a natural grandeur standpoint, or what do you say, Wouter ? :-) :-) Now, if I should get realy serious for a moment. After reading the travel plan in your post, in my *personal* opinion (and nothing personal!), but I think it's a waste of money. 13 European countries in 4 weeks ? You would get more out of a couple of photo books from your local library. Less then 2 and a half days per country, phu ! We (my family) was 4 weeks in France last summer, and we was just skimming the Paris region and the Brittany... Jan-Erik. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.