> Our interests lean more towards the outdoors and > natural grandeur but > man made and citified have their place too. As a Dutch I would suggest that with those criteria (and with most others as well) you should certainly skip the Netherlands. :) Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.