To rephrase it, he thinks that he can figure out, in software, the number of MIPS of the machine he is running on. You can come up with a "reasonable" guess as to clock speed on a PIC or related processor by seeing how many instructions it will execute in between watchdog timeouts (the WDT timer is normally a separate RC controlled clock, I believe.) You could probably get a bit closer with a single resistor and cap connected to an IO pin, PERHAPS even using the pin's inherent capacitance and leakage... It depends how accurate he needs to be, and whether he's allowed to make baseline measurements to compare to, and so on... BillW -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu