> > I disagree. "intelligent" programmers require you to > > wait for new firmware > > to support a new part, plus new software. Parallel port > > versions (and serial > > port versions with no smarts) just need a software update. Of > > course, for > > production a smart programmer is a must IMHO, also "smart" > > programmers can > > possibly be quicker. For hobbyists though I think a parallel > > port programmer > > is much easier to keep "up to date". TTYL > > That is true for the Wisp628 JE was talking about (and probably for most > other SP programmers too), but I recall that at least one (probably > USB-bsed?) intelligent programmer can have its firmware updated on the > fly, which cobines the best of both worlds. But again, you are tied to the hardware maker to give you updated firmware, I don't like being tied down like that, as a hobbiest. My parallel port programmer (the Davit Tait serial one) is so simple that there is no modification needed for a newer pic, just wire a new adapter. The only thing I have to worry about is software support, and IC-Prog has so far been very "modern" in it's support. The best thing is if IC-Prog doesn't fill my need there are several other options out there. You just can't get that "universal" ability with "smart" hardware. TTYL -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.