Wouter, I considered, by some measurement (using basical Windows
subroutines) that NT or Win 2000 is totally useless in this region...Timing
can differ about 100 per cent or more from time to time. I use an old 485
based computer with Dos for such things, but it's difiicult to do such
advice for newbees...
Igor

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Subject: Re: [PIC]:Need help programming a 16F676


>         I disagree. "intelligent" programmers require you to
> wait for new firmware
> to support a new part, plus new software. Parallel port
> versions (and serial
> port versions with no smarts) just need a software update. Of
> course, for
> production a smart programmer is a must IMHO, also "smart"
> programmers can
> possibly be quicker. For hobbyists though I think a parallel
> port programmer
> is much easier to keep "up to date". TTYL

That is true for the Wisp628 JE was talking about (and probably for most
other SP programmers too), but I recall that at least one (probably
USB-bsed?) intelligent programmer can have its firmware updated on the
fly, which cobines the best of both worlds.

BTW could anyone give me a timing for programming a modern PIC, let's
say a full 18F242, with a parallel port (non-intelligent serial port)
programmer, using a "hw-protected" windows like NT or XP? I would guess
this the point where a non-intelligent programmer realy loses.

Wouter van Ooijen

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