hmmmm...not sure if the mouse one is what the original poster had in mind. I was talking more along the lines of this Grayhill encoder available from Digikey as Digikey part # GH6101 Madhu | That is exactly what they are ...encoders.You use a decoder to count up and | down. You can get any encoder with a built in shaft and you are in business. | Some of the easy to use rotary encoder are the Grayhill Series 61 and | series 62 Optical rotary encoders. | Madhu Pull an encoder out of a mouse? I hear Jan-Erik has a couple :O) - Robert -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body