Have you checked that the LVP pin on the PIC is grounded? Colin -- cdb, bodgy1@optusnet.com.au on 30.04.2003 I have always been a few Dendrites short of an Axon and believe me it shows. Light travels faster than sound. That's why some people appear bright until they speak! -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body