Depends also to a large part on what background they are mounted on. Possibly a dull black panel without any reflections would be the best. Jan-Erik. David Strickland wrote: >I'm working on a clock design using some LEDs, and have no real idea >what range of mcd (milli-candela) I need to use for it to be visible >during the day. > >The 7-segment and matrix setups I looked at so far ranged from 4.8 mcd >for a green 5x7 matrix, to 8 for a green 7segment, to 20 for a red 7 >segment. Are these remotely bright enough to see across a sunlit room? -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.