>And I still would like to know which chips specify 3V dropout >though. If you have any clues, please let me know. I have a feeling that this 3V has become a "rule of thumb" when using 78xx regulators, on the basis that the data sheet gave around 2.5V. This then meant there is a bit of headroom for ripple etc. Then there is the other problem about the way you are going about things. It seems to me that you are pushing the dropout spec of the 7812, and as a result may run into strife later. However your load is "only" fans, so it is not actually affecting you if the output does actually drop out of regulation. But then again I suspect you may be able to run the fans without the regulator at all :)) -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics