> you can just WATCH them get deluged with "stupid questions" You mean the real GOOD questions like the one guy who was asking how come his cracked copy wouldn't load the files and if anyone had a better crack for it? Wow. I didn't see THAT one. But no, actually. There will always be complete jerks, and some of them will have paid the full price and think that intitles them to be jerks. The two questions that come to mind were "how do I route a single sided board?" and "how do I move my components to the other side of the board." It's not quite a case of failure to RTFM; the freeware doesn't come with a manual, just a tutorial and online help. They're OK, but not great. BillW -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body