I realize that this is a Pandora's box topic. But I've finally reached the realization that I'm going to have to come up with something sturdier than wire wrap. One of my permanent projects (a wall mounted thermostat) is falling apart after a couple of years of use. So I'm I wandering into the realm of PCB making and I'm soliciting advise. Of course The PicList has several extended threads on the subject. And yes I've read them all. Now not to come in empty handed I come with a few of the resources I've been doing research from/with. Then the questions. RESOURCES --------- One of the best groups I've seen on the subject is the Yahoo group Homebrew PCBs: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs They talk about every method under the sun and have a vast amount of resources. One of the best overall "how to do it" posts can be found here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs/message/839 Eagle (http://www.cadsoft.de) does represent an opportunity for schematic and board layout of small boards. However both the free and hobbyist versions of the products are quite limited. The cost for reasonable sized (4" x 6") boards is $125! (And only for strictly non commercial use) Ouch!!! I've been playing with it and will probably use it for my first couple of tests. Questions are Eagle related. Some interesting suppliers: Circuit Specialists: http://www.web-tronics.com Really cheap presensistized copper boards Dyna-Art: http://www.dynaart.com Silver plating among other items. Austin Electronics: http://www.austinelex.com/ae_118.htm PCB PhotoFab kit After slogging through all the posts and all the different techniques I finally concluded that presensitied positive photoresist boards etched in plain old Ferric Cloride optimizes the costs and process repeatability. This is especially true because I only have inkjet printers at home, so printing to transparancy then exposing, developing, and etching is very cost effective. QUESTIONS --------------------------------------------------- Now on to the questions. 1) I'm looking for one small eagle tip. How in the heck do you create a power bus? I've used a few of the numerous tutorials out there to layout my first board (a 16F628, 3 resistors, and an LED). But I'm clueless as to how to create a physical representation of the power supply buses. Just draw a thick line? 2) More Eagle. Is there any way to force the autorouter to generate a single sided board only? Even after forcing the cost of the top side to 99, sometimes it will still generate a top side trace or two. 3) Any standards as to line thickness and pad size for novice boardmakers. 4) Final Eagle. Has anyone tried any tricks for creating larger boards by segmenting and cut/pasting the smaller boards into a larger board? 5) Specifically for Olin. Your PIC library is great. Would you object if I posted a copy of it (with proper attribution of course) on my PIC page? Thanks, BAJ -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body