This is what you get when you use Google to check the spelling of "weird" :-) Many strange and some probably useful languages. Even WEIRD http://www.catseye.mb.ca/projects/?keyword=eso The links at the bottom look useful. The "Stupid programming languages" are not all stupid by any means. (but it's unlikely that I will be investigating any of them this lifetime. ) RM -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.