By the way Mozilla is up to 1.4A and has windows, linux, etc support. No = good themes yet though and the old themes won't work on 1.4 -----Original Message----- From: M. Adam Davis [mailto:adampic@UBASICS.COM] Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 9:50 AM To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: Re: [OT]: Superb Anti-SPAM tool <- About spam I second the Mozilla nomination. This morning, after having checked my mail last night, I received over 300 email in my main account. About 50 were valid. Fewer than 30 spam came through mozilla's filter - which isn't great, but given the volume of stuff I get it can't be beat. Not having to sort through the other ~200 messages saves me a great deal of time. It also helps that nearly all my regular mail is filtered to another folder, so I only get 2-3 valid email in my inbox, which means it's easy to get rid of great swaths of spam based on the subject. Just don't send me email with subjects like "hi" and "re: your message" ;-) Fortunately my PICList email doesn't have the same problem - I've gotten 2-3 spam to this account over the last few /years/. Kudos to the list admins for preventing mail harvesting! -Adam P.S. For those curious - I've had my main email address for nearly 5 years now. I've used it in newsgroups, it's plastered all over my website, and I'm attached to several commercial lists (ZDNET, CNN Breaking news, etc). When the spam load was small I actively attacked spam - finding out who was responsible and sending messages to them, their provider, and their provider's provider, usually finding and quoting their various TOS agreements. Usually It'd take me a day to sort the spam and send messages to the most egregarious spammers, and then I'd live with 1-2 spams a day for another 2-3 months - back then it actually worked! Now there are systems that perform much of that function (spamcop, spamassasin, etc), but it simply doesn't get anyone's attention anymore. Most of the time all you can do is get a website shut down, but by the time you've dealt with it the site is gone and they've set up shop elsewhere. Since there's no real dicincetive to spam I'm really hoping for some laws and fines so there will be no good reason to spam... Time to email my representatives... All of them... At once... With a bogus return address... :-) Francisco Ares wrote: > Also, try new Mozilla 1.3 (Windows, Linux and Mac OS X) with embedded > junk mail controls: > > http://www.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla1.3/#new > > I can tell it is great! I love seeing all those garbage messages = vanish > from my inbox (the program saves spam in a "junk mail" folder, and may > delete them after a programmed period of time). It also includes = pop-up > blocking from sellected domains. > > There are a lot of "plugins" for increased funcionality, including GPG > interface (called "Enigmail"), banner / ad blocking, a "Companion" > (Yahoo) like tool bar, a "Googlebar", separate spellchecker, ... : > > http://www.mozdev.org/projects.html > > > Hope this helps > > Francisco > > > Russell McMahon wrote: > >> CC to 2 other lists, at the risk of looking like spam :-( >> >> >> >>>> I have been submerged in spam lately, and i have a new (?) idea = about >>>> >>>> >> it. >> >> Here's a NZ written anti spam tool that is extremely useful. >> >> www.mailwasher.net (was www.mailwasher.co.nz ) >> >> A donation is requested, but it's free if you're miserly. >> >> - Bounces spam as if you don't exist >> - Only downloads what you want downloaded. >> - Subject and partial content preview possible without download. >> - Prechecks spam and viruses. >> - Gives you full control of what happens >> >> Mail Washer sits between you and your ISP. It pre downloads headers >> and such >> other message content that it needs without triggering the ISP to >> show that >> a mail read has occurred. It flags probable, spam based both on >> content and >> black-lists from sources such as Spam Cop. Automatically build a >> friends-list and black-list of your own. >> >> Go on - click on the link - they explain it far better than I do. >> Download it now - it's free! It works. >> >> One point - you need to give mail Washer first look at your mail AND >> process >> the mail before your browser gets to see it. If browser is on auto >> read it >> will download the junk even though mail washer has flagged it as bad. >> Easily >> managed but you need to know this. >> >> >> >> Pro version available for $ here http://www.firetrust.com/ >> >> -- >> http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: >> [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! 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