Thanks to all who replied. The biggest thing that I forgot from my basic electronics is that the capacitor acts as a short initially. So then that clears up the question. I did dig out my first year electronics book last night. This type of circuit is defined as a RC differentiator. As I can see, this type of circuit has many good uses: Including a DC charge pump, for generating both a positive and negative supply rail from a single positive rail. So I fail to see how this can be a bad design circuit. -----Original Message----- From: pic microcontroller discussion list [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU] On Behalf Of Olin Lathrop Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2003 7:47 AM To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: Re: [EE]: Pulse circuit, can you explain how this works. > IN ---|>o-----)|------|>o------ OUT > | > |_---/\/\/\/\--- GND > > To me, the capacitor is acting as a coupling capacitor, so I fail to see > how this is making the output a small pulse given the input state. Can > someone explain how this is producing a digital pulse on the output? The C and R form a high pass filter into the second inverter. In a rough sense, this means edges get thru but steady levels don't. Start with the circuit with IN high and steady state. IN goes low, causing a rising edge into the capacitor. This step is coupled immediately to the output inverter, making it go low. So far, the signal has just been passed thru. Now consider what happens as IN stays low. The input to the capacitor stays high, but the output will exponentially decay towards 0. This decaying voltage will eventually be interpreted as a low input by the second inverter, making it go high. We have so far sent a falling edge in and gotten a low going pulse out. In other words, and edge to glitch converter. Now IN goes high. This causes the input to the capacitor to go low. The output of the capacitor is already at 0, so it will attempt to go to -5V. However, the input clamping diode in the second inverter will clip that to -700mV or so. The output is not changed, but now we're ready for IN to go low again and cause another pulse. This type of circuit is somewhat of a kludge. Wanting an edge to glitch converter is usually a symptom of bad design elsewhere. Note also that the second inverter should be a schmitt trigger unless the RC time constant is very low. As an additional exercise, consider what the circuit does if R and C are exchanged. ***************************************************************** Embed Inc, embedded system specialists in Littleton Massachusetts (978) 742-9014, http://www.embedinc.com -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body