Lawrence Lile wrote: > Which unit is better? > > I have two units, one is supposed to be "improved" over the other. I > ran 200 tests on each unit, and recorded the number of successful > tests out of each group of ten tests. I am trying to prove to > myself whether one is actually better than the other, or that the > differences are insignifigant, statistically. Here is the raw data > > Successful tests > out of ten tries > > unit1 unit2 > 10 10 > 3 2 > 5 10 > 10 9 > 10 6 > 0 0 > 7 9 > 10 10 > 8 8 > 0 5 > 7 6 > 2 6 > 9 8 > 7 10 > 8 9 > 10 10 > 4 10 > 0 1 > 3 3 > > 113 132 out of 200 total # tests > 57% 66% success rate > > Avg 5.947368421 6.947368421 Average > St. Dev 3.703957106 3.341218743 St Dev > > Now on the surface Unit 2 looks slightly better than unit 1. > However, the standard deviations are so large, maybe it is just a > statistical fluke and next time unit 1 will look better. Any body > got enough math whizzing around their brain to tell? > > P.S. THe manufacturer says the tests should be 95% successful. Yeah > right. > > --Lawrence the Skeptical All will depend on the kind of test. If the group of 10 tests are exactly the same, then it is not 20 tests of 10, it was simply 200 tests, and the result is 113 x 132. Statistics are very tricky. Suppose the lotto number 35 was not drawn a single time during the last 52 Saturdays, what are the chances of the ball #35 to be drawn next Saturday? Exactly the same as any other ball... since the past results does not interfere in the next draw, everytime happens to be a fresh brand new opportunity to all the numbers. Except of course if the ball #35 is heavier, lighter, bigger, smaller, etc, what is not the case, since they always replace the whole set of balls every Saturday for new ones never used, exactly to avoid this kind of crazy thoughts. If your result is basically 113 x 132, there is no tricky stat wizard that will convince you otherwise, but in your place, I would love to see the explanation why the Unit#2 made 10 in the first and third, and only 2 in the second group of tests... that would be an interesting explanation... Wagner. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads