Jinx may well reply to this I hope :-) I am putting it on list as others may find it useful/have suggestions I've ditched other schematic software in favour of Jinx's MSPaint approach (many thanks Jinx), my version of MSPaint happily opens/saves GIFs. He has a library of components http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/joecolquitt/0symbols.html Before i re-invent the wheel, does anyone have a GIF(or BMP) library of PIC schematics? Stuart -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body