On Mon, 14 Apr 2003 16:06:49 +0200, faisal moro wrote on [PIC]: 16F877 hardware programmer: >hi all > >i started looking for a free programmer to build by myself on the >net, and got lost in 10 minutes: isp, bootloader, could someone >please explain me these? >Isp seems a cool feature, but do i have to "sacrify" pins? >Then, what is a bootloader? >I need to find a free programmer that works wit IC-Prog (or whatever) >and that i can build by myself, with the plus of isp. > >What does your experience suggest? Give a look at my page : http://www.astrosurf.com/soubie/pp_programmer.htm ISP is available from the 2x5 connector; see schematic in the zip file. Personally, I prefer to add the ISP feature either on the proto board if I build one for the application (most times) or on the prototyping board =E0 la LABX1 if I use one, rather than use the programmer as an interface.=20 It is just a matter of adding a 5x1 pinhead strip with GND, VCC, RX, TX and maybe RESET; I have built a RS232 to TTL adapter with a MAX232 into the middle of a cable between my portable PC and the board, and this makes for a very light and transportable development system. I even have a pcb and schematic for this adapter for interested people. * soubie@atlantic-line.fr * soubie@astrosurf.com * http://www.astrosurf.com/soubie * Alimentation thermostat=E9e =E0 d=E9coupage AlAudine NT: * http://www.astrosurf.com/soubie/alaudine.htm * Au royaume des aveugles, les borgnes sont mal vus... - P.Dac -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.