First, try an inexpensive lamp dimmer on your iron to give you some control of the tip temp. Can't make suggestions for tip sources without knowing the type of iron you are using (mfg). For short-life spans, it's OK to sand, turn, or grind your existing copper or copper alloy tip down to a smaller size. With the plating removed it won't last as long, but you'll get through quite a bit of soldering first. You can try www.contacteast.com for a good assortment of pro (translation:expensive) tools, or you could simply have Sid do all your prototype work for you. I believe he can solder things by hand that I can't even see..... Why ever would you want to put these on DIP adapters? are they not available in DIP packaging? C > My iron is probably a bit high (30W), but I'll probably have > to live with > that for the moment. Any pointers on a good mail order source > for suitable > tips for fine SOIC/SMT work? > > (I'm going to be soldering the SOICs onto mini-PCBs and > making them DIPs, > FYI). -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.