[snip] > Comps > I can understand, most of them will never touch real hardware, but EE's? > TTYL I beg to differ. In 2nd year Comp (not EE), we have already done wirewrap (and breadboard), and have PLENTY of real hardware to go. Maybe the programs have changed over the years (I am sure they have somewhat), but our program is focused around mixing software and hardware, not just computers... so we still have plenty of "real" hardware exposure ahead of us. ---------------------------------------- This mail sent through www.mywaterloo.ca -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.