> i started looking for a free programmer to build by myself on the > net, and got lost in 10 minutes: isp, bootloader, could someone > please explain me these? > Isp seems a cool feature, but do i have to "sacrify" pins? > Then, what is a bootloader? > I need to find a free programmer that works wit IC-Prog (or whatever) > and that i can build by myself, with the plus of isp. > > What does your experience suggest? I use the original David Tait 16C84 serial programmer, modified with an ICSP adapter, works perfectly. You might consider just purchasing one, they can be had for quite low prices. TTYL -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.