From my understanding, the "anti-piracy" technology is two fold. Sure, it stops "piracy" (I hate this term) of the games, but it also gives Sony (and others) release control. What I mean by this is say that a REALLY awesome game (like say SNK vs Capcom 3) is released in Japan (as most games are released there first anyway). And let's say that there is a cult following for SNK vs Capcom games (1 and 2 were very big successes), and the company that wrote this game decides, for whatever myopic reason, to not release this game in the US market. With a "virgin" PS2, an entire market is denied this game. Since many people are diehard fans, they want to import the game (legally from Tokyo, Hong Kong, or other markets). They pay the importing tax, they pay the shipping cost, and they pay the price that the company retails the game for. Now, they can other 'chip their PS2, or just look at the pretty packaging. I think the DMCA completely misses the mark as a law. It shouldn't punish people who either academically or otherwise find weaknesses in a Security system, but those people who use those weaknesses for illegal activites. Don't punish the person who sold the modchip. Subpeona his client list, and if they are using it for illegal uses, bust those people. Or better yet, don't put in stupid "anti-piracy" technology that any 2 year old could circumvent and then expect the government to inforce your lack of security. I'm not saying that I'm pro-modchip.. honestly, my PS2 is virgin, as is my PS1, but I think the DMCA is too wide-sweeping and not specific enough to address the REAL concern that it should be addressing. The DMCA will be the end of security advancements. -Russell -----Original Message----- From: pic microcontroller discussion list [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Marc Joffe Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 7:57 AM To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: Re: [EE]: PS2 mod chip provider jailed It is not Sony's responsibility to reimburse the state. Do families of murder victims pay for the murderer to sit in jail? Would you expect a store that is robbed to pay for the thief to sit in jail? Also, if you put all your effort in to a device that you wanted to sell wouldn't you want it protected. MArc On Mon, 2003-04-14 at 09:46, Marc Nicholas wrote: > And Sony are going to reimburse the State the $2500/week it costs to > incarcerate him? (I think not...) > > God Bless the DMCA... > > -marc > > > On 14/4/03 09:01, "Russell McMahon" wrote: > > > Interesting: > > > > "Virginia man sentenced to 5 months for selling PS2 mod chips > > NEW YORK (April 13 4:53 p.m. EDT) - A Virginia man has been sentenced to > > five months in > > prison for operating a Web site that helped video game enthusiasts > > bypass anti-piracy technology on popular games." > > > > > > RM > > > > -- > > http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different > > ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details. > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > Marc Nicholas Geekythings Inc. C/416.543.4896 > UNIX, Database, Security and Networking Consulting > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different > ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.