>> You still using PINE Herbert? I'm still using the email program that pre-dated PINE, thank you very much. I find the entire crop of GUI-based mail readers to be woefully insufficient when it comes to doing the kinds of things I do with my email, such as: read last 1000 to billw subject review text DCD to find the recent code review comments on that DCD problem... It doesn't do HTML at all. It doesn't do MIME, although I can pipe things through a MIME filter if I need to. It doesn't like "Rich text format" or PC-font characters. It doesn't do text wrapping (but leaves that to "more" or the tty drivers.) Every once in a while I look at the new clients, but they seem to lack the distinction between ornamental appliances and REAL tools... Grr. BillW -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads