Folks, this week we discussed a project with a=20 lot of input-outputs.=20 Possible ways were: PIC18F, AVR, MSP430. I battled=20 for PICs, cause I'd like to have a reason to go on=20 with PICList (the only reason). It was a tough task, guys, but I almost succeeded.=20 (I used an old good soviet style propaganda trick:=20 I asked which horse power he would prefer: 48 (max=20 number of i/o lines in AVR and MSP430) or 68 (number=20 of i/o lines in PIC18F8720). So Mchip has won:-)=20 The problem remained to solve was TQFP package. We emailed local Mchip guys with question if they have some adapter (a little PCB we could solder=20 PIC18F8720 to, for example, or something else). When developing project we'll change application PCB=20 many times and also microcontroller will be replaced=20 to get statistic. We wrote we bought and successfully=20 used a number of DIP PICs earlier. Am I stupid as rock?=20 In response we've got absolutely irrelevant nice=20 little message with 700K 39583b.pdf attachment. They told us we needn't adapter, we must place five jumpers onto PCB (5v,13v,data,strobe,ground)to=20 program the chip. Didn't I told them we bought their PICs ealier? =20 And this 13v for HVP for 68 i/o 80 pins PIC18F8720? And this unnecessary 700K 39583b.pdf attachment, because we've downloaded it before? Unsolicited 700K during day-time with our phone lines here in Ukraine was a pain.=20 The question about AVR and MSP got up again. Should I fight for PICs now? Could anybody tell me what is the common approach to handle 80 pin TQFP package when developing=20 project? Thanks in advance. Mike Singer. The guy who sent me the attachment:=20 --------------------- =F3 =D5=D7=C1=D6=C5=CE=C9=C5=CD, =E1=CE=D4=CF=CE = =EB=D5=DA=CE=C5=C3=CF=D7 =F4=C5=C8=CE=C9=DE=C5=D3=CB=C9=CA =C3=C5=CE=D4=D2 MICROCHIP=20 =D4=C5=CC. +38-044-295-55-19 anton@microchip.com.ua www.microchip.com.ua ---------------------- =20 =20 -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body