> It is not all engineering either, remember unless you have a 3.5 or > above you are not going to find it easy to get a job you would probably > consider good. Certainly not one in design. Hell it can be tough to find > a job just in your own major. I've encountered two types of interviewees: 1) "Look at my GPA/Degrees/Schooling" 2) "Look at my accomplishments" When I see a resume from someone who has #1, it's an immediate red flag, and most often those who tout their schooling above and beyond any of their accomplishments wind up not being worth a damn. I ask the question "Besides school, what have you successfully accomplished?". If they act shocked that I'm not interested in their schooling, they aren't the right person. As an employer, I'm far more impressed with #2. If they show a steady amount of learning, open to new ideas, trying new things, that's the kind of person I want working for me. Throwing away someone with a great amount of technical expertise only because they don't have a degree is short sighted and a major missed opportunity. I'm not stating that you should hire someone if they aren't qualified, only that there are plenty of degreeless individuals who are outstanding, and they should not be discounted. Really, I'd like to see a balance of solid engineering schooling (even if they don't have a degree) and lots of practice, either professionally or as a hobbyist. The last thing I need is another stuffy master's degree holder who thinks the world owes them something and can't think outside what a book has taught them. -->Neil ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Neil Bradley In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is not Synthcom Systems, Inc. king - he's a prisoner. ICQ #29402898 -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.