The problem with co-ops, even the ones that really ARE "fast and motivated learners", is that you have to spend the time teaching them all that stuff, and then they go and work permanantly somewhere else! Unless you have a task that they only need minimal training for, that can be completed during the timeframe of the co-op period, this can be a net drain on resources. BillW -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.