Before you get too carried away with beating up on K&R you must remember the initial target (PDP-10) for the C language. PDP-11, please. The PDP-10 was an entirely different beast, and doesn't match up with C at all well. (36 bit words, not byte addressable, to start with. Lovely to program in assembly, but it was the mid-80s before anyone did a credible C compiler for it.) BillW -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics