There have been questions and comments on the list about what should you do with the LVP pin on a PIC when using high voltage programming. Some people say if the LVP fuse is turned off, it does not matter, others say it should be tied to ground "just in case". I'm using Wouter's WISP628, which uses HVP. I've had no problems programming 16F877 and 16F876 PICs leaving the LVP pin floating (although I normally connect it to the LVP line from WISP628). However, I've just been having some problems with a 16F628 when I leave it floating - sometimes programming works, other times it doesn't. So it does appear that to be safe, the LVP pin should not be left floating, but should be connected to ground (directly, or via some circuitry) "just in case" YMMV Larry Bradley Orleans (Ottawa), Ontario, CANADA -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu