Assuming the crystal is running, is it coming out of reset and what are your configuration fuses set as? Are you using uC 'C' or another type? Colin -- cdb, bodgy1@optusnet.com.au on 27.03.2003 I have always been a few Dendrites short of an Axon and believe me it shows. Light travels faster than sound. That's why some people appear bright until they speak! -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu