Specifically, I'd like to find out which version of the IBM PC family first included a parallel port. As far as I can tell, this was the IBM 5170 PC/AT, released in 1984. In early PCs, the parallel port tended to be included on the "monochrome display adaptors", including the original IBM/PC text-only display, and later the ubiquitous "Hercules compatible MDA" cards that appeared in most clones. I don't think that my old PC/AT clone has a separate (motherboard) parallel port; it was still on the display adaptor. I think that about the time that IDE was introduced (and color monitors starting coming down in price), the parallel port moved from the display adator to the "multifunction IO card" (IDE/Floppy/parallel/serial/game), and still later that they showed up on "most" motherboards. BillW -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics