At 01:45 PM 3/12/2003 -0500, you wrote: >Hi Spehro! Hi:- >On Wed, 12 Mar 2003, Spehro Pefhany wrote: > > > http://www.ti.com Power Trends, now part of Texas Instruments. > > > > e.g. PT78Sxx series, but there are dozens of part numbers. > > > > They are NOT cheap, about FIFTY times the price of a 78xx regulator > > (not counting heatsink). Don't spec these in a volume product if you > > value your job and are not working for the military. > >There's more to cost, -especially- in volume, than just that one part. >Consider all the cost/space values of possibly leaving the fan out of a >design because the regulator might be the largest or even only >(significant) heat producer. 1) fan cost, 2) using a smaller enclosure >because there's no fan, 3) no fan cutout (molding design/fab costs), 4) no >fan and associated wiring parts assembly, 5) never having to worry about >the fan failing (including fail sensor (temp or fan power) and associated >failure/shutdown hardware/software). Sure, SMPS regulators are widely used, and quite often appropriate, just not these expensive pre-packaged subassemblies, except in very limited cases. A simple SMPS (made from a UCNxx part or whatever) can easily be cheaper than a linear when you count the factors you mentioned. >The cost of these power parts will also likely drop like a brick over a >few years, so take future cost into account too. If they do not become popular enough they might also be discontinued or increase in cost. TI is pretty hard-nosed about that sort of thing. Ask the poor schmucks who designed in their TO-92 current mirrors. They are gone and there is no substitute or second source. >Less important of course >if the life if the product isn't expected to be even that long which is >all too common today. Another can of worms, indeed. >I'm not disagreeing with you, just adding to the perspective. > >Have a :) day! & U2 Best regards, Spehro Pefhany --"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu