>I am in the process of building an El Cheapo >programmer as well. The PIC16F62x devices need to >have RB4 pulled low to initialize the programming >mode. The solution is simply a matter of connecting >RB4 to ground when programming 16F62x's. I use IC->PROG for software. The El Cheapo circuits (book or homebuilt) don't ground RB4, and I didn't modify mine to do so. I guess I am just lucky that it is able to program the 16F627 without problems. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu