Hello friends, I would like to ask if there isn't upgrade of the firmware ICD(1) to be able to program and debug 18F series? I don't need USB port and to pay another $160 bucks when ICD worked pretty well for my hobby purposes till today. One more question a little off topic. My next project is to implement ISDN line instead of two analog to our equipments. I decided to use CMX625 ISDN TA POTS Interface from CMLmicro (because of delivering). I don't need any data transmitions - to connect a phones only and to figure time of connections, to follow D-channel and to control the chip by some PIC. Where to start to learn anything about ISDN D-channel signaling and/or protocol? I wasn't able to find anything useable browsing the Internet. I do know ISDN is obsolete a bit but not here in Europe. Regards Igor -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu