At 09:48 AM 3/8/03 -0500, Chris Loiacono wrote: >I was just able to program/verify the 18F simply by connecting an external >supply to the board (and thus the pics) before starting the PS+. Now, on to >the others... If the power supply rise time does turn out to be the problem, Microchip has published an active buffer circuit for that as well. Its in lots of places: I simply did a search for the 2 terms PLUS ICSP (plus was shorthand for picstart plus) - one of the first hits was for the 12c508 but the buffer schematic was the same: Have a look at the buffer circuit in appendix A: it has the advantage that it allows Vdd to go to zero for those PICs that require Vpp to be applied before Vdd. dwayne -- Dwayne Reid Trinity Electronics Systems Ltd Edmonton, AB, CANADA (780) 489-3199 voice (780) 487-6397 fax Celebrating 19 years of Engineering Innovation (1984 - 2003) .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .- `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' Do NOT send unsolicited commercial email to this email address. This message neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads