I'm an Eagle user. Be forwarned that the parts editor in it SUCKS. Even trying to do something simple like making a variant of an existing part is like pulling teeth. I don't think that's quite right. The Eagle library editor is just fine for creating new parts, adding new packages to parts, and your sort of basic "creating" functions. Where it falls apart is "library management." Tasks such as "I want to copy the 16F84 definition and make it into a 16F628", or "I want a library with all the parts I commonly use" are like pulling hen's teeth... BillW -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics