Boy there is a lot of confusion going on here. I was referring to XCSB as Dwayne was too. See the text below. Btw Crownhill PBPlus does support Onewire and I2C. HD44780 based LCD's are the most bog standard LCDs around and yes it does support them. What you are getting confused with is Samsung S6B0108 chipset Graphical LCD's which it supports also. Tim -----Original Message----- From: pic microcontroller discussion list [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of BOBISH Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 8:37 PM To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: Re: [PIC] Crownhill Pic Basic Plus?. I know LCD read/write etc is in there but I believe their version supports NON "standard" LCD's. That is non HD44780 based LCD's. Those are the cheap common ones. Other types would be useless to me. That's the kind of stuff one should know before wasting money. I2C might be supported but OW etc. I don't know and they are not telling. Bobish ----- Original Message ----- From: Timothy Box To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 3:16 PM Subject: Re: [PIC] Crownhill Pic Basic Plus?. I to looked with interest. But cannot see any high level stuff i2c LCD control etc. Is it there? Tim -----Original Message----- From: pic microcontroller discussion list [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Dwayne Reid Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 7:45 PM To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: Re: [PIC] Crownhill Pic Basic Plus?. At 02:11 PM 2/21/03 +0000, Sergio Masci wrote: >Sorry I just couldn't stay out of this any longer. > >XCSB has 8, 16 and 32 bit signed and unsigned integers, 32 bit IEEE 754 >(single format) floating point, pointers, arrays, early out logical >operators, array access to constant data held in program space, user >functions, multi tasking, greater than 8 levels of function nesting, dead >function elimination from libraries, very fast context switch to user >written interrupt handler, access to underlying XCASM assembler, source >level debugging via XCSIM simulator, produces optimised native machine code. I assume that XCSB relies upon XCASM to actually generate the code. Does XCASM generate the additional files needed for debugging within MPLAB (.COD or .COF files)? I see that XCSB is free for non-commercial use but I'll be darned if I can figure out how much it costs if I want to use it commercially. I just can't figure out what all of those items are in your price list and which items are needed. dwayne -- Dwayne Reid Trinity Electronics Systems Ltd Edmonton, AB, CANADA (780) 489-3199 voice (780) 487-6397 fax Celebrating 19 years of Engineering Innovation (1984 - 2003) .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .- `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' Do NOT send unsolicited commercial email to this email address. This message neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads