OOps almost Forgot Jameco part # 171969 is a microprocessor interfacable 4 x 4 kepand encoder I it is part of the E Lab series of chips -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads