I'd have to agree, about ANY op amp out there can amplify more than 100x, assuming you're not close to unity gain frequency. What frequencies are we talking about? TTYL > -----Original Message----- > From: pic microcontroller discussion list > [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Richard Prosser > Sent: February 20, 2003 20:46 > To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > Subject: Re: [EE]: Differential Amplifiers > > > Are you sure that you're not getting close to either of the > supply rails? - > Otherwise I can't think of much! > 100x gain should be OK provided that the input offsets don't get out of > hand - do both input have the same effective source impedance (or near > enough the same). > > What frequency are you simulating your circuit - could you be hitting a > slew rate limit - or the simulated effect of one? > > Can you send the circuit or put it on a website somewhere? > > Richard P > > > > > Hi guys, > > I have a generalised op-amp question. I am having trouble trying to > extrapolate what I need to know from manuals and datasheets, so maybe one > of > you experts here in analog electronics (something I definately am not) can > help me with understanding the concept. This may seem like a > dumb question > to some of you, but here goes... > > Do op-amps have a limit on the amount they can amplify a signal ? What I > am > finding is that if you increase the difference in resistance in > the divider > in a differential amplification setup, at a certain point, the signal > becomes non-linear at the peaks. Increasing the reference > voltage into the > op-amp does not seem to help. At a certain point in the divider > value, the > output simply shifts further up from zero, rather than increasing > the gain, > and the peaks are flattened out. Note that this is not the same > as getting > the low point to zero on a non rail-to-rail op-amp by providing a negative > reference - I am already doing this. I am having a great deal of trouble > getting much more than about 20x gain from an LM358. I would like 100x > gain, but this seems impossible to achieve with this op-amp, even > though it > is marketted as a "HiGain" op-amp. > > I am pretty sure of my observations. I am not proto testing it, but SPICE > testing it with CircuitMaker, so I can see a sine wave amplified output > compared to a sine wave input - a good way to graphically see with a SPICE > transient analysis what is going on. > > PS: I am good with digital electronics, but I wish I was better at analog > ... > > Rgs > Ian. > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList > mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList > mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu