> The point where it really gets to me though, is when I > have an issue that I have posted, and instead I get mauled alive about a > COMPLETELY DIFFERENT side issue other than my core problem. It's discouraging > because after a while, one tends to get frustrated with trying potential > solutions over and over again... and then when someone comes along and badgers > you about something completely irrelevant to my problem (lets say my > commenting style just for example), it is very discouraging because not only > am I being attacked for my main problem, but also other problems which aren't > really tied to my main problem. Sure, those little things matter, and I would > be MORE than willing to address those issues; but not while I have a main > issue at hand. It would be so much more profitable to me as a newbie if I got > my main issue out of the way and working, which then makes room for me to > improve upon the little bad habits that I have. I don't know about other > newbies, but this is something that I feel goes on quite a bit... to myself > and others. Maybe I am inviting it, maybe I'm not... just my 2 cents. Jai, You still have not got it. The best person that can debug your code is yourself. I could not comment better than Olin, but believe him, commenting your code is the best way to help you debug your code. The other way is for someone to do a code-review, but that "someone" would need a well-commented code to start with. When I was a computer lab-tutor in the university, I see so many students running and running their ill-conceived code again and again, hoping the machine can solve their error-in-thought. Nothing could be worse, they lost sleep, got anxious, lost-their-cool and at the end loosing the most important tool: a clear-mind. But it is a useful exercise, those who cannot break their habbit would fail the class and save them future agony. Hard-working admin, I think de-linking the list from google would help a lot, but is it possible? It will make the list harder to find, making it too easy is one of the cause. Your guess is as good as mine how this might help. Ling SM -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu