> Excellent info Matt, thank you. :o) When it comes to > bang for the buck the 430 might be a good one. It's > such a shame Microchip don't care about the low end > of the market. If they stuck a decent 16bit timer in the > 16c505 (ala 12F675) and bumped it to 5mips on internal > clock, then dropped the price to $0.50 i'd be satisfied > even though it is still less powerful than a 430. > Sure the 12F675 is nice but again it's a case of adding > new peripherals and keeping the price up, rather than > introducing a lower-cost part with minimum features. > Surely I can't be the only designer wanting a fast > CHEAP micro?? Unless they do something soon i'm really > feeling like jumping ship. More and more i'm thinking > that PICs are for hobby use and not for "real" > production. :o( There is certainly a place for the "cheap as possible" micro, but Microchip has to go where the money is. I don't know how representative the applications that come my way are, but I find myself often wishing for more peripherals in a smaller package. I've used a 17C752 at least twice now just because I needed two UARTs in the same chip. I would like things like a 16F628 with two UARTS and 8K of code space. The few applications I've had where an 8 pin part was sufficient, the speed of the 12C508A has also been good enough. Microchip had planned an 8 pin 18F part a year or two ago, but the project was aborted. I was told that was because they determined there wasn't a sufficient market for a high function 8 pin part. At the time I had no personal experience that pointed otherwise. They developed the 12F628/675 instead. ***************************************************************** Embed Inc, embedded system specialists in Littleton Massachusetts (978) 742-9014, http://www.embedinc.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu