The 16F818/9 chips allow the /MCLR pin to be configured as I/O (actually I only), yet the programming specifications do not mention the Vpp-before-Vdd sequence used by other chips that allow /MCLR as I/O. I have had some trouble programming a 16F819 when the /MCLR was configured as I/O, which was NOT resolved by using the Vpp-before-Vdd sequence. Any similar experiences and/or solutions from other programmer makers? Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu