On Sat, 15 Feb 2003, Olin Lathrop wrote: *>> The 'easy' way to make a sine converter is to use a class B push-pull *>> amplifier and a split secondary transformer (2x10V for 12V batteries). *> *>Not so easy when you realize that class B is not very efficient, and at *>his power levels getting rid of the heat will be a significant challenge. Class B is the most efficienct way to drive a sine wave with reasonable distortion and without complications (like high power harmonic filters whose Q must be kept low and dealing with load dumps with several Henrys of secondary inductance at tens of A/us slew rates produced by non-sinusoidal drive). The efficiency is ~70% theoretical and the same as that of an equivalent powered audio amplifier, and it is feasible in low-tech low-development-expense mode upto 1kW or so. Also most older AC inverters work exactly like this. *>Commercial inverters either alternately drive the transformer primary to *>full in each direction producing a sort of rounded square wave, or they That is not a rounded square wave, it is a square wave. What they do is drive the primary with fast PWM modulated to make a sine shape after integration by the big transformer and associated filters. *>use DC-DC converter techniques to drive the primary with a high frequency *>chopped sine wave as you said. The rounded square wave approach may not *>be as bad as it first appears, depending on the loads you plan on driving. What in g*d s name is a rounded square wave and how do you make it using straight switches ? The only way I know if a multiply tapped transformer. It is very expensive to make. That would approximate a sine in steps. *>Incandescent light bulbs and electronic equipment with switching power *>supplies (like a PC) don't mind this at all. However, sine wave output is *>the only thing guaranteed to work with all standard appliances. *> *>> All *>> the other ways involve a DC/DC converter steered with |sin| waveform and *>> an active H bridge in the high voltage side. *> *>Really, "all" other configurations than class B are like this!? C'mon *>now. For one thing, you can use the same center tapped primary you *>mentioned above, center to the +DC supply, and each end switched to ground *>using PWM so as to produce a sine wave out. In fact, it was my *>understanding that this was a reasonably common arrangement. When PWM is used normally there is no tap, and either a half bridge or a full bridge drive is used. Switches are cheaper than transformers. There are some designs with tapped transformers but the core space is used inefficiently like that. *>> This will give about 70% efficiency, which is low. *> *>A well tuned and tweaked system should be able to do better than 70%, but *>that is still a lot better then class B. Class B is rated 70% efficient (at 5% or 10% distortion - I do not remember). *>> Maybe it would be easier to convert the 115Vac *>> installation to 24Vdc or 48Vdc and save one major part (or pita). What *>> would it take to convert the blower to a static switched dc motor ? *>These *>> are made to specs like you need for servo purposes. *> *>That may be a reasonable approach in some cases, but I think the original *>poster is doing this partly for the sake of doing and learning this *>himself. Certainly a system that produced normal line power would be much *>more flexible, and a much better learning experience. The op is trying to buy insurance against ice storms probably. Imho for his needs the best way would be to get a genny that runs on the same fuel as the furnace and concentrate on making an automatic fail-over circuit (with temporary power dropout while switching). At least that would be what I would do. The kind of failover without power drop in the middle is very hard to do for mains. Peter -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu