Here's the link:  http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/20010917/index.html

I've done a writeup on the P4's Thermal Management and will publish it soon.
It may shed some light on a few P4 issues and supposed truths.

Anyway...  The AMD's thermal management is clearly inferior to Intels.
Have been ever since the PII-series.

    KreAture


----- Original Message -----
From: "michael brown" <spam-me@HOUSTON.RR.COM>
To: <PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 12:50 AM
Subject: Re: Erroneous PC cpu operating temperature claims


> Peter wrote:
> > On Sat, 15 Feb 2003, Jake Anderson wrote:
> >
> > *>as far as i am aware it is true
> > *>the CPU temp i have seen on P4 and AMD systems differ greatly P4 ~
> 30-40 AMD
> > *>~50-70 C
> >
> > Ah, so now they have reversed ?
>
> IME, AMD's (athlons) are much hotter running than Intel's (P4's)
>
> > *>P4's TPS (heh heh) Thermal overload system is currently the best
> there is
> > *>if you have a P4 running Quake 3 then yank the heatsink off the CPU
> actually
> > *>underclocks itself practically instantly till it maintains a stable
> temp
> > *>(frame rate drops from 180 to 4)
> > *>AMD lets the smoke out in the same circumastance
> >
> > True. Benn there.
>
> It's true, I've seen a couple of AMD heatsinks pop off.  It's a sad
> sight.  ;-)
>
> > *>Toms hardware has a set of demo's of this and you can see the AMD
> chips
> > *>almost catch fire
> >
> > I have to see this. Any url ?
>
> I've seen them, but I can't remember the URL.  You should be able to
> search it up at Tom's.  It's awesome.  Just watching the guy try and
> remove the AMD sink is a riot.  It's so hot he can't hardly unclip it.
> As soon as he gets it loose, the game freezes and "something" boils on
> top of the CPU.  I'm assuming that it's some kind of thermal grease.
> The Intels just slow down, and keep running the game.  Impressive.
>
> michael brown
>
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