In private correspondence, re claims about AMD versus Intel PC CPU operating temperatures, Rod wrote > Have trouble believing there is much difference between I and AMD ... It's garbage. (Someone had written) >> ... , but did you know that with the fan/heatsink off an AMD >> Palomino runs at 5680F and an AMD Athlon 1400 it run at 6980F! If the fan >> fails that leaves only the heatsink to dissipate all that heat. >> In comparison, the Intel Pentium 4 2Ghz runs at 840F and the Intel Pentium >> III 1Ghz runs at 1000F with the fan/heatsink off. ALL modern processors draw extremely high currents at low voltage. Haven't looked up requirements but probably 20A plus plus at 1.5 to 3 volts. Even 20 watts (below any of above) on an unheatsunk chip will fry it vvv quickly. It may be that Intel's cpu's have a little more thermal mass than AMDs which may allow them to survive for a few more seconds totally unheatsunk. (But an eg Celeron 1700 looks pretty minimal in any sort of mass to me). Just possibly Intel's heatsinks are superior and without a fan they run cooler. But even then the temperatures they claim are bunk. 84 F = 27C The heatsink on the Celeron 1700 I installed a few days ago runs annoyingly hot with VERY large Intel heatsink and fan. I'd say around 50C ! Anyone here have any REAL figures? Russell McMahon -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu