I'm considering making a unit using an 18F452 and a FTDI USB chip (either the 232 or the 245, I'm not sure which). One of the FTDI chips has a serial interface, the other has a bidirectional FIFO with a parallel interface. Has anyone used these chips with a bootloader? Any comments on its effectiveness? I see a couple of serial bootloaders for this chip, including one in an app note from Microchip, and also ones from: Martin Dubuc (derivative of the Microchip one): http://members.rogers.com/martin.dubuc/Bootloader/ Shane Tolmie's doesn't appear to have any source: http://www.microchipc.com/PIC18bootload Ideas? I'd also like to be able to use the same interface to talk to the PIC during normal operation, so there must be some way to dynamically vector to the bootloader (and, I suppose, the bootloader must be in series with the received-character interrupt, or the interrupt handler will have to notify the loader when in bootloader mode). Thanks, -- Ned Konz http://bike-nomad.com GPG key ID: BEEA7EFE -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.