> Wish I had a picture to show you, of the Paekakariki hills just out of > Wellington, New Zealand, where the cliff is an almost sheer drop to the sea, > and guys go hang gliding off it. Not sure how high it is, 980 feet - almost vertical !!! - only railway & coast road twixt bottom and sea. Here's some pictures of people jumping off it with said appertanances attached. http://www.home.aone.net.au/robins/friends.htm This is a true Paekakariki hill story (two actually): Long ago I gravelled up the old main road towards the cliff tops having much fun on my way home from Wellington to Auckland. On one sweeping right hander things got a bit tight and while I made the bend well enough I noted that across a small gravel parking area on the bends apex there was a small board fence with nothing except sky behind it. Until then I had been deep in native bush so the sudden change was a surprise. I had no clear idea of where I was. I turned back into this "rest area" and got out to have a look. Breathtaking. Beyond the fence the cliff fell 980 feet to the sea below with no apparent interruption between me and it. I was puzzled at first until I saw the coast road and parallel railway - very very small and far below. Cliff feels almost vertical but is maybe 60 - 70 degrees ??????? with antierosion ledges occasionally. I had strong visions of what could have happened if I hadn't made the corner and no doubt drove on a tiny bit more subdued. About 2 weeks later two others weren't so lucky. Their car skidded across the rest area, breached the fence and started its 950 odd vertical feet journey roadwards. Motorists on the coast road reported seeing a large spherical object bouncing across the railway line then across the road towards the sea. Nobody died! One man managed to leap clear before the edge. The other started down with the car but was thrown out and landed (and remained) on one of the antierosion ledges part of the way down. He was injured but apparently lived. To round off Paekakriki ramblings: http://nz.com/NZ/News/WYSIWYG/1999_News/1999January2.html *Both Herman Wouk (War and Remembrance) and Leon Uris (Battle Cry) wrote novels which spent some time on the US Marines' transit through Wellington, and I am sure one or other of them spoke of Tinakori's steep wooded hills that way. Uris described a route march which I hope is fictional, from the Wellington waterfront to the Marine encampment at what is now Queen Elizabeth Park, beyond Paekakariki. One heck of a hike in full battle rig. _______________ Mt Doom FWIW (same site) http://y23.50g.com/ngauruhoe1/lg_x20010203-05h25m12s-P.jpg R :-) M -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.