Would it be possible to record the TV series music so we can hear it? Or write it onto MIDI.... I've sung Carmina B twice and listened to it way many times, I'd recognise even a half decent MIDI version.... Alternatively, have you looked for the tunes at the following links? http://www.laurasmidiheaven.com/Classical/cgi/index2.cgi?action=displaycomp& compchoose=Beethoven,%20Ludwig%20von Not that we actually get the series over here in the UK but a quick google search suggests that Beethoven 9th sympthony Ode to Joy was used in the titles.... You have to stick with it before the famous bit starts! -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.