Not according to DS4119A from Microchip. For example,=20 18F458-I/P (PDIP) Shows Pin 1 as MCLR/VPP 18F458-I/L (PLCC) Shows Pin 1 as DBGMCLR/VPP and Pin 2 as MCLR/VPP 18F458-I/L (PLCC) Shows Pin 17 as NC. This is the=20 only NC pin shown for this package in this datasheet 18F458-I/L (PLCC) Shows pin 28 as ICDDATA, there is no comparable pin for the PDIP version. 18F458-I/L (PLCC) Shows pin 40 as ICDCLK, There is no comparable pin for the PDIP version. They have apparently separated the ICD connections from the shared I/O pins, allowing it to be more transparent to the project being debugged. This is cool for those who use ICD. I just wondered how best to terminate them if not being used. Any suggestions would be welcomed. Lyle -----Original Message----- From: Tim Webb [mailto:tim_webb@AGILENT.COM] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 2:09 PM To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: Re: [PIC]: From DIP to PLCC >Do you realize that you have (4) NC pins - usually those are the extra (4) pins >The ICDDATA, ICDCLK, DBMCLR/VPP pins should be terminated the same way you did in the dip form -----Original Message----- From: Hazelwood Lyle [mailto:LHazelwood@MFGNC.COM] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 10:48 AM To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: [PIC]: From DIP to PLCC I am moving a project from 18F458 DIP to PLCC. The "extra" four pins are marked: NC ICDDATA ICDCLK DBMCLR/VPP I can handle the NC, but how (if at all) should I terminate the other three? I checked the datasheet, but only found the purpose for the pins, no info on suggested termination if they aren't being used. I am NOT planning any debugger connection, I just want to place them in a stable, inactive state. Any suggestions would be welcomed. Lyle Hazelwood -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads