Russell McMahon wrote... >...this IS essentially a chat room * that has a number of >permanent reasonably well defined core threads and one rather >ubiquitous ill defined core thread. This "one rather ubiquitous ill defined core thread", as you call it, happens to be **VERY** well defined in the PICLIST FAQ: "[OT]: This label is for posts that are completely off the topic of PICs. The only thing we don't (ever) want to see are religious, hate, or political messages." The above injunction is there for two very good reasons: 1. This is the PICLIST. We're here to talk about PICs and related matters, primarily in the field of electronics. Some of us are here to help others. Some are here to be helped. Some of us are here to compare notes and discuss various techniques for designing things using PICs. When you post religious, hate or political messages to a mailing list which is not devoted to such material, the resulting arguments can be EXTREMELY disruptive and divisive. They poison the atmosphere of the group. We don't need that. 2. Having a large amount of wildly off-topic material flying about on a mailing list degrades the signal-to-noise ratio. Simply put, it means that when people abuse the list by arguing politics on it, I (and, I suspect, most other subscribers) have to waste a lot of my time wading through a lot of irrelevant trash to get to the stuff I'm really interested in: PICs. There are thousands of places on the Internet- in mailing lists, Usenet groups, chat rooms, and weblogs- where political discussion is on-topic. As the PICLIST FAQ indicates clearly and emphatically, this is **NOT** one of them. DD -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu