On Sun, 2 Feb 2003, Spehro Pefhany wrote: *>I don't know his circuit, but the outputs of a PIC should swing to within *>a few millivolts of either rail if not loaded- and there's no such thing *>as a ST output. They do, to within better than 5mV when measured with a high Z dvm. To be able to rely on this keep the Iout under 100uA. This is easy (50k circuit impedance at 5V). But check before using this info. Peter -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.